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	<title>Comments on: City Park View Plane: Too Close to Downtown</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I live in aurora and my view plane is just wonderful! Maybe people who want an unobstructed view of the  mountains should move further away from the the downtown area, makes since to me, the city is going to eventually grow beyond its borders here soon anyway. There will probably be a lot more influx of people moving into the dt area here in denver, with the pop. of dt only 2000 ppl. that is by far going to change in the next ten years when we are more business savvy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I live in aurora and my view plane is just wonderful! Maybe people who want an unobstructed view of the  mountains should move further away from the the downtown area, makes since to me, the city is going to eventually grow beyond its borders here soon anyway. There will probably be a lot more influx of people moving into the dt area here in denver, with the pop. of dt only 2000 ppl. that is by far going to change in the next ten years when we are more business savvy.</p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 5:12, I&#039;m wondering how your comment isn&#039;t the least bit juvenile?  This is a comment board, where we&#039;re invited to comment on the situation.  All you&#039;re doing is whining about us commenting?  Are you imagining yourself to be productive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 5:12, I&#39;m wondering how your comment isn&#39;t the least bit juvenile?  This is a comment board, where we&#39;re invited to comment on the situation.  All you&#39;re doing is whining about us commenting?  Are you imagining yourself to be productive?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah ! This ain&#039;t Houston, it&#039;s Cowlodaro!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah ! This ain&#39;t Houston, it&#39;s Cowlodaro!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, contact City Council?  Act like a grown-up?  Never.  We prefer to complain, then ask what can be done, then (when told) refuse to do anything, then complain more.  And the lack of time excuses this juvenile behavior (although we always have time to complain).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for playing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, contact City Council?  Act like a grown-up?  Never.  We prefer to complain, then ask what can be done, then (when told) refuse to do anything, then complain more.  And the lack of time excuses this juvenile behavior (although we always have time to complain).</p>
<p>Thanks for playing!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1207</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denver City Council knows and reads all commentary published on the Internetz. In fact, they can read your mind. If you don&#039;t believe me, maybe you should send them an e-mail message citing Ken&#039;s post.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ask your district councilmember (or Doug Linkhart or Carol Boigon, the at-large councilmembers) to respond to your concerns. They are incredibly well-versed in the topic of view planes. After all, this is the third view plane dispute that has erupted in the past 12 months -- Ruby Hill, Coors Field, now this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the time of the Ruby Hill dispute, some councilmembers called for a thorough review of view plane policy before granting waivers for individual cases. Instead, a waiver was granted and a policy review never happened. It&#039;s time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Contact your councilmember:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;www.denvergov.org/CityCouncil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denver City Council knows and reads all commentary published on the Internetz. In fact, they can read your mind. If you don&#39;t believe me, maybe you should send them an e-mail message citing Ken&#39;s post.</p>
<p>Ask your district councilmember (or Doug Linkhart or Carol Boigon, the at-large councilmembers) to respond to your concerns. They are incredibly well-versed in the topic of view planes. After all, this is the third view plane dispute that has erupted in the past 12 months &#8212; Ruby Hill, Coors Field, now this.</p>
<p>At the time of the Ruby Hill dispute, some councilmembers called for a thorough review of view plane policy before granting waivers for individual cases. Instead, a waiver was granted and a policy review never happened. It&#39;s time.</p>
<p>Contact your councilmember:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.denvergov.org/CityCouncil" rel="nofollow">http://www.denvergov.org/CityCouncil</a></p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1206</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax there, Anon 12:27.  With the way you hark on my comments, I&#039;m assuming you&#039;re either a councilperson yourself or an idealist.  One person talking to a councilperson won&#039;t do much, and likely the councilperson won&#039;t listen to you if they have preconceived notions on the matter.  You are only one vote, after all.  If the issue can be addressed through a community action group, and then to the councilperson, there might be a bit more of an effect, but then only if that group make up the constituents of the said person&#039;s district.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As presented by someone else, the only people who seem to have time for all that are the naysayers.  My stake isn&#039;t really that high in the matter, since I&#039;m neither a developer or a resident of North Cap or Park Hill, and I&#039;ve got better things to do like earning money, so I&#039;m relegated to complaining.  If a group were to be put together and I were to find out of that group, it&#039;d certainly have my support.  But time and bills have funny ways of making people chronic complainers and not activists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax there, Anon 12:27.  With the way you hark on my comments, I&#39;m assuming you&#39;re either a councilperson yourself or an idealist.  One person talking to a councilperson won&#39;t do much, and likely the councilperson won&#39;t listen to you if they have preconceived notions on the matter.  You are only one vote, after all.  If the issue can be addressed through a community action group, and then to the councilperson, there might be a bit more of an effect, but then only if that group make up the constituents of the said person&#39;s district.  </p>
<p>As presented by someone else, the only people who seem to have time for all that are the naysayers.  My stake isn&#39;t really that high in the matter, since I&#39;m neither a developer or a resident of North Cap or Park Hill, and I&#39;ve got better things to do like earning money, so I&#39;m relegated to complaining.  If a group were to be put together and I were to find out of that group, it&#39;d certainly have my support.  But time and bills have funny ways of making people chronic complainers and not activists.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The skyline can and should &quot;just end.&quot;  That&#039;s what zoning in and around the CBD accomplishes.  Height limits vary, by design.  And it&#039;s a good thing.  This ain&#039;t Houston!  But Ken&#039;s point is that the current end point makes no sense.  Further, perhaps particular end points should be revisited periodically.  Of course, that doesn&#039;t mean that the concept of an end point is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The skyline can and should &quot;just end.&quot;  That&#39;s what zoning in and around the CBD accomplishes.  Height limits vary, by design.  And it&#39;s a good thing.  This ain&#39;t Houston!  But Ken&#39;s point is that the current end point makes no sense.  Further, perhaps particular end points should be revisited periodically.  Of course, that doesn&#39;t mean that the concept of an end point is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/04/city-park-view-plane-too-close-to.html/comment-page-1#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>city council will NEVER go for this...especially since it goes against the will of very-rich Park Hill residents. the only option is a citizen run ballot initiative...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>city council will NEVER go for this&#8230;especially since it goes against the will of very-rich Park Hill residents. the only option is a citizen run ballot initiative&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No kidding!  But hey, Anon 10:31 has a point.  The skyline can&#039;t just &#039;end&#039;, as it is already very spread out due to some of those horrific parking lots.  Plus, if we want our city to grow and look better, we cannot have some silly ordinance regarding mountain views get in the way.  It&#039;s impossible to avoid seeing them whilst anywhere on the front range anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding!  But hey, Anon 10:31 has a point.  The skyline can&#39;t just &#39;end&#39;, as it is already very spread out due to some of those horrific parking lots.  Plus, if we want our city to grow and look better, we cannot have some silly ordinance regarding mountain views get in the way.  It&#39;s impossible to avoid seeing them whilst anywhere on the front range anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone from City Council ever read this site?  That would be marvelous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone from City Council ever read this site?  That would be marvelous!</p>
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