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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/06/more-on-bell-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-2390</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The design is remarkable and I believe it can be an iconic part of the skyline for years and years.  The problem I have with it is the price per unit.  The Rocky Mountain News has a piece from 7/27/08 that says units will be sold from $7.5 million to $25 million.  Anyone else think there is a market in this town for a building like this?  The Four Season&#039;s $10 million deal was an inside job and we&#039;re talking about STARTING at that level.  How many of those $5 million units have been sold at the Ritz or Four Seasons?  I love the building, but &quot;Buzz&quot; might be crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The design is remarkable and I believe it can be an iconic part of the skyline for years and years.  The problem I have with it is the price per unit.  The Rocky Mountain News has a piece from 7/27/08 that says units will be sold from $7.5 million to $25 million.  Anyone else think there is a market in this town for a building like this?  The Four Season&#39;s $10 million deal was an inside job and we&#39;re talking about STARTING at that level.  How many of those $5 million units have been sold at the Ritz or Four Seasons?  I love the building, but &quot;Buzz&quot; might be crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: BeyondDC</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/06/more-on-bell-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-2187</link>
		<dc:creator>BeyondDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&gt;I&#039;d love to see more art deco, it&#039;s my favorite style, but people are bound to label it as &quot;historical fakery&quot; or whatnot&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Historical fakery... you mean like fake warehouses? Isn&#039;t that 90% of what&#039;s been built in Denver in the past decade?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Personally I don&#039;t have any problem with historicism, as long as it&#039;s well done (which is the real trick)... I&#039;m just commenting that the prevailing style in Denver today *IS* historicism, and everybody seems to love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&gt;I&#39;d love to see more art deco, it&#39;s my favorite style, but people are bound to label it as &quot;historical fakery&quot; or whatnot</i></p>
<p>Historical fakery&#8230; you mean like fake warehouses? Isn&#39;t that 90% of what&#39;s been built in Denver in the past decade?</p>
<p>Personally I don&#39;t have any problem with historicism, as long as it&#39;s well done (which is the real trick)&#8230; I&#39;m just commenting that the prevailing style in Denver today *IS* historicism, and everybody seems to love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Pizzuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Pizzuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this rendering better than the previous renderings.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Still, I wish there were some kind of consistent pattern to the design.  I like the tower&#039;s tilt and the unusual angles, but I don&#039;t like how every floor is a mismach of the preceeding and succeeding floors.  If all the balconies came out to the same height, or were located in a row, most of the bad aspects of this design would be eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this rendering better than the previous renderings.  </p>
<p>Still, I wish there were some kind of consistent pattern to the design.  I like the tower&#39;s tilt and the unusual angles, but I don&#39;t like how every floor is a mismach of the preceeding and succeeding floors.  If all the balconies came out to the same height, or were located in a row, most of the bad aspects of this design would be eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: Saint</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/06/more-on-bell-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-2157</link>
		<dc:creator>Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mentioning Art Deco towers like the Chrysler Building here Anon 9:55 is like lightning a match in a weapons factory.  Dangerous thing.  I&#039;d love to see more art deco, it&#039;s my favorite style, but people are bound to label it as &quot;historical fakery&quot; or whatnot, and then whine about how the building should be a cube superimposed over an inverted triangle with random balconies.  Then they&#039;ll complain people are calling them elitists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentioning Art Deco towers like the Chrysler Building here Anon 9:55 is like lightning a match in a weapons factory.  Dangerous thing.  I&#39;d love to see more art deco, it&#39;s my favorite style, but people are bound to label it as &quot;historical fakery&quot; or whatnot, and then whine about how the building should be a cube superimposed over an inverted triangle with random balconies.  Then they&#39;ll complain people are calling them elitists.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/06/more-on-bell-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-2110</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was pretty disappointed, but got to admit this building looks better than expected in the model. The place for this building, though, is behind the Pavilions.  I still think a tall, more traditionally shaped building such as that we find in say the NYC Chrysler Building would be more befitting this location.  Perhaps a land swap could be effected between the owners of the land behind the Pavilions and this guy.  This building behind the D-Pav would be amazing and you&#039;d be an elevator ride from shopping. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I&#039;ve got to stick up for Santiago Calatrava and the Chicago Spire.  Call it what you will, but the building at night will be an icon to ingenuity forever.  It&#039;s a stunning design, simply brilliant.  We should be so lucky to have an iconic supertall building of any kind let alone one like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was pretty disappointed, but got to admit this building looks better than expected in the model. The place for this building, though, is behind the Pavilions.  I still think a tall, more traditionally shaped building such as that we find in say the NYC Chrysler Building would be more befitting this location.  Perhaps a land swap could be effected between the owners of the land behind the Pavilions and this guy.  This building behind the D-Pav would be amazing and you&#39;d be an elevator ride from shopping. </p>
<p>Finally, I&#39;ve got to stick up for Santiago Calatrava and the Chicago Spire.  Call it what you will, but the building at night will be an icon to ingenuity forever.  It&#39;s a stunning design, simply brilliant.  We should be so lucky to have an iconic supertall building of any kind let alone one like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be sad to see built.  If it has to be on Speer move it a block or two north(of course Geller, probably doesn&#039;t own that land, but you get the point).  Larimer to Auraria should be a 10 story max connection.  This has nothing to do with preservation it&#039;s just a more realistic scale for what is already there and likely to be there if the campus is ever able to realize any of their master plan.  If this does get built, dump the high end fake historic schtick along 14th and just make something modern.  A firm as &quot;prestigous&quot; as this one is believed to be by some of the people here should be embarrased by that gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be sad to see built.  If it has to be on Speer move it a block or two north(of course Geller, probably doesn&#39;t own that land, but you get the point).  Larimer to Auraria should be a 10 story max connection.  This has nothing to do with preservation it&#39;s just a more realistic scale for what is already there and likely to be there if the campus is ever able to realize any of their master plan.  If this does get built, dump the high end fake historic schtick along 14th and just make something modern.  A firm as &quot;prestigous&quot; as this one is believed to be by some of the people here should be embarrased by that gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Memory is short.  The view plane that everyone is so perplexed by is mandated by city ordinance.  That&#039;s the whole reason Geller had to put the buildings where he did.  The model is better than the rendering, but I will never like the short fake-historical building across the creek from the tower.  Mary Voelz Chandler is absolutely right about its design (she&#039;s usually right about these things architectural).  People who think that those of us who don&#039;t like fake-history are being elitist are no different from the Bud-drinking idiots who think people who like good coffee are elitist and therefore &quot;not like us.&quot;  Read Susan Jacoby&#039;s new book The Age of American Unreason, and get over your fear of what you call elitism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Memory is short.  The view plane that everyone is so perplexed by is mandated by city ordinance.  That&#39;s the whole reason Geller had to put the buildings where he did.  The model is better than the rendering, but I will never like the short fake-historical building across the creek from the tower.  Mary Voelz Chandler is absolutely right about its design (she&#39;s usually right about these things architectural).  People who think that those of us who don&#39;t like fake-history are being elitist are no different from the Bud-drinking idiots who think people who like good coffee are elitist and therefore &quot;not like us.&quot;  Read Susan Jacoby&#39;s new book The Age of American Unreason, and get over your fear of what you call elitism!</p>
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		<title>By: jronczy</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/06/more-on-bell-tower.html/comment-page-1#comment-2084</link>
		<dc:creator>jronczy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anon 12:18, the view plane issue is quite real and practiced with great fervor. To anon 5:26 &amp; 3:41, one man&#039;s sh** is another man&#039;s fertilizer. Distinctive buildings will always serve as a lightning rod for criticism, no matter how crass or ill-presented. I think this work is developing nicely. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anon 12:18, the view plane issue is quite real and practiced with great fervor. To anon 5:26 &amp; 3:41, one man&#39;s sh** is another man&#39;s fertilizer. Distinctive buildings will always serve as a lightning rod for criticism, no matter how crass or ill-presented. I think this work is developing nicely. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, view planes, really? hypathetical concept don&#039;t you think. I doubt many people will actually practice them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, view planes, really? hypathetical concept don&#39;t you think. I doubt many people will actually practice them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm...Dubai, isn&#039;t that the future financial center of the solar system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;Dubai, isn&#39;t that the future financial center of the solar system?</p>
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