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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/10/sugarcube-look-back.html/comment-page-1#comment-2810</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Sugar3 building is the nicest and most sophisticated and intellectural building in Downtown Denver.  It is both progressive and modern while reflecting and respecting the history of the neighborhood and its buildings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The design and level of detail could be appreciated on many scales and levels.  The clean, contemporary use of brick to the  height setbacks/relationship to the original Sugar building to the playfullness of the windows and balconies of the residential levels, the Sugar3 building is definitely a positive contribution to our cityscape and I hope will set a positive precident for thoughtful building design in Denver. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Historic copies is not the only option for LoDo, as Denver is becoming a more progressive city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Sugar3 building is the nicest and most sophisticated and intellectural building in Downtown Denver.  It is both progressive and modern while reflecting and respecting the history of the neighborhood and its buildings.</p>
<p>The design and level of detail could be appreciated on many scales and levels.  The clean, contemporary use of brick to the  height setbacks/relationship to the original Sugar building to the playfullness of the windows and balconies of the residential levels, the Sugar3 building is definitely a positive contribution to our cityscape and I hope will set a positive precident for thoughtful building design in Denver. </p>
<p>Historic copies is not the only option for LoDo, as Denver is becoming a more progressive city.</p>
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		<title>By: binford</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/10/sugarcube-look-back.html/comment-page-1#comment-2758</link>
		<dc:creator>binford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irregular windows and balconies up top aside, Sugar3&#039;s context and scale between the more traditional buildings on either side works well. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The perspective looking down 16th street looks decent (can&#039;t say I like the Blake side nearly as much), and the whole Market Street Station area is looking worlds better than 10 years ago thanks to this building and the adjacent 16 Market Sqaure. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What&#039;s more, the next decade may hold just as much change as the previous one: there&#039;s the potential for the W hotel and the associated parcel next door to be developed, and the bus station itself will eventually be sold to a developer to help finance union station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irregular windows and balconies up top aside, Sugar3&#39;s context and scale between the more traditional buildings on either side works well. </p>
<p>The perspective looking down 16th street looks decent (can&#39;t say I like the Blake side nearly as much), and the whole Market Street Station area is looking worlds better than 10 years ago thanks to this building and the adjacent 16 Market Sqaure. </p>
<p>What&#39;s more, the next decade may hold just as much change as the previous one: there&#39;s the potential for the W hotel and the associated parcel next door to be developed, and the bus station itself will eventually be sold to a developer to help finance union station.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like part of this project included a small infill project on Wazee behind the Cube.  Is that still going to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like part of this project included a small infill project on Wazee behind the Cube.  Is that still going to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Jellyneck</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/10/sugarcube-look-back.html/comment-page-1#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jellyneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is a great building...  The brutalist base is a great foundation for the more whimsical top. the cream colored bottom is contextual with the surrounding buildings and the grey offers a great background for the irregularly spaced balconies.  What I think is *most* successful though is its massing. The brick to window ratio is nearly perfect as are the setbacks which are not overly complex and still offer what must be fantastic terraces. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Frankly, I don&#039;t see what about this building is abstract.  Columns, beams, windows, balconies.  It has all the same &quot;building blocks&quot; of any other building, it just uses a different language to order them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Though I will admit that the irregularity of the balconies and the windows on top are not as successful as they could have been.  I don&#039;t want classical order or even symmetry up there, but there should at least be a sense of balance and I feel it fell a little short there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My architectural views are a departure from yours BeyondDC, but that does not make them a parody.  Like architectural styles, it only means that I make my judgements on a different set of values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is a great building&#8230;  The brutalist base is a great foundation for the more whimsical top. the cream colored bottom is contextual with the surrounding buildings and the grey offers a great background for the irregularly spaced balconies.  What I think is *most* successful though is its massing. The brick to window ratio is nearly perfect as are the setbacks which are not overly complex and still offer what must be fantastic terraces. </p>
<p>Frankly, I don&#39;t see what about this building is abstract.  Columns, beams, windows, balconies.  It has all the same &quot;building blocks&quot; of any other building, it just uses a different language to order them.</p>
<p>Though I will admit that the irregularity of the balconies and the windows on top are not as successful as they could have been.  I don&#39;t want classical order or even symmetry up there, but there should at least be a sense of balance and I feel it fell a little short there.</p>
<p>My architectural views are a departure from yours BeyondDC, but that does not make them a parody.  Like architectural styles, it only means that I make my judgements on a different set of values.</p>
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		<title>By: mymilehi</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2008/10/sugarcube-look-back.html/comment-page-1#comment-2750</link>
		<dc:creator>mymilehi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is &quot;sweet&quot; about the sugarcube, it seems;) Hope the rain dissolves it overnight!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And nothing is certain about this decade! It will definately be interesting to see what name actually sticks 15 years from now. What strange times we live in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is &quot;sweet&quot; about the sugarcube, it seems;) Hope the rain dissolves it overnight!</p>
<p>And nothing is certain about this decade! It will definately be interesting to see what name actually sticks 15 years from now. What strange times we live in!</p>
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		<title>By: beyonddc</title>
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		<dc:creator>beyonddc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this building&#039;s defense, I will agree with Joe: the scale is right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this building&#39;s defense, I will agree with Joe: the scale is right.</p>
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		<title>By: beyonddc</title>
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		<dc:creator>beyonddc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jellyneck said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&gt;Abstract architecture is not a parody of formal architecture, its a departure from it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I said:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&gt;when your goal is to be &quot;different&quot;, you are reliant on there being something for you to be different from&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to disagree with my usage of &quot;regular&quot; to describe non-abstract architecture, that&#039;s fair enough. But abstract architecture is absolutely a parody of non-abstract architecture, because the entire goal of abstract architecture is to be a departure from the non-abstract.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Without a whole lot of non-abstract buildings around, abstract buildings are utterly pointless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jellyneck said:<br /><i>&gt;Abstract architecture is not a parody of formal architecture, its a departure from it.</i></p>
<p>I said:<br /><i>&gt;when your goal is to be &quot;different&quot;, you are reliant on there being something for you to be different from</i></p>
<p>If you want to disagree with my usage of &quot;regular&quot; to describe non-abstract architecture, that&#39;s fair enough. But abstract architecture is absolutely a parody of non-abstract architecture, because the entire goal of abstract architecture is to be a departure from the non-abstract.</p>
<p>Without a whole lot of non-abstract buildings around, abstract buildings are utterly pointless.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would call this decade the uh-oh decade.. because of the fear mongering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And equally scary, just in time for halloween is this building.  Sorry, I just don&#039;t like it.  I think 16 is so much nicer.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I like the scale of the building itself in that location.. its perfect, but I just hate the overt homage to the big squares.. do we need to be so obvious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would call this decade the uh-oh decade.. because of the fear mongering.</p>
<p>And equally scary, just in time for halloween is this building.  Sorry, I just don&#39;t like it.  I think 16 is so much nicer.  </p>
<p>I like the scale of the building itself in that location.. its perfect, but I just hate the overt homage to the big squares.. do we need to be so obvious?</p>
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		<title>By: Jellyneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jellyneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call it the zeds.  But I&#039;m the only one, so nobody knows what the hell I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I call it the zeds.  But I&#39;m the only one, so nobody knows what the hell I&#39;m talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Jellyneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jellyneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyonddc;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Abstract architecture is not a parody of formal architecture, its a departure from it.  To look for a parody then perhaps you should go back to the 90&#039;s and have a gander at post-modernism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Regularity&quot; is not solely a description of architectural features, it is a description of organization.  The only dependence this description relies on, is our understanding of the english language.  Beyond that I would argue that regularity isn&#039;t inherently better than irregularity, unless you are speaking of bowel movements.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m happy to disagree about the merits of the building, but if we are going to give little lessons, let&#039;s at least do a good job with our definitions of architectural theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyonddc;</p>
<p>Abstract architecture is not a parody of formal architecture, its a departure from it.  To look for a parody then perhaps you should go back to the 90&#39;s and have a gander at post-modernism.</p>
<p>&quot;Regularity&quot; is not solely a description of architectural features, it is a description of organization.  The only dependence this description relies on, is our understanding of the english language.  Beyond that I would argue that regularity isn&#39;t inherently better than irregularity, unless you are speaking of bowel movements.  </p>
<p>I&#39;m happy to disagree about the merits of the building, but if we are going to give little lessons, let&#39;s at least do a good job with our definitions of architectural theories.</p>
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