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		<title>By: Allen</title>
		<link>http://denverinfill.com/blog/2009/10/denvers-underutilized-neighborhood.html/comment-page-1#comment-4279</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for talk of street cars and LRT on south Broadway, please, if you&#039;re not already taking the zero which practically runs all the time, spending a few hundred million for a street car isn&#039;t going to make a noticeable difference.  Well, unless the city goes nutts with subsidizing TODs along it but that&#039;s another story.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Most of the neighborhoods Maher listed are in ethnic neighborhoods, Latino or black.&quot; - Pizzuti&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good point.  After all, didn&#039;t areas that are considered successful like SoCo, SoBo, 342nd and Lowell, become &quot;successful&quot; due to gentrification?  For example, look at Broadway between 3rd and Cedar.  Not only does it have have more boutique exercise studios than bars now but it has a wine bar, a few fancy restaurants, a fancy baby shop, fancy pet shop,etc.  In the meantime the Big Lots closed along with some antique shops, book stores, etc.  Can we have successful neighborhood centers without gentrification?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for talk of street cars and LRT on south Broadway, please, if you&#39;re not already taking the zero which practically runs all the time, spending a few hundred million for a street car isn&#39;t going to make a noticeable difference.  Well, unless the city goes nutts with subsidizing TODs along it but that&#39;s another story.</p>
<p>&quot;Most of the neighborhoods Maher listed are in ethnic neighborhoods, Latino or black.&quot; &#8211; Pizzuti</p>
<p>Good point.  After all, didn&#39;t areas that are considered successful like SoCo, SoBo, 342nd and Lowell, become &quot;successful&quot; due to gentrification?  For example, look at Broadway between 3rd and Cedar.  Not only does it have have more boutique exercise studios than bars now but it has a wine bar, a few fancy restaurants, a fancy baby shop, fancy pet shop,etc.  In the meantime the Big Lots closed along with some antique shops, book stores, etc.  Can we have successful neighborhood centers without gentrification?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of us living near these areas are to blame... for driving our cars so much.  Get out of your car and walk/bike somewhere.  Don&#039;t just go for a walk for exercise, go for an errand.  I live near the Krameria/14th Ave area featured and just about everyone drives there, and also to the big box centers nearby (Northfield, Glendale) that we&#039;ve been conditioned to think we need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of us living near these areas are to blame&#8230; for driving our cars so much.  Get out of your car and walk/bike somewhere.  Don&#39;t just go for a walk for exercise, go for an errand.  I live near the Krameria/14th Ave area featured and just about everyone drives there, and also to the big box centers nearby (Northfield, Glendale) that we&#39;ve been conditioned to think we need.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SF is a beautiful city and love it.  It is kind of a joke for being a big city.  I&#039;ll hit some punch lines: bay bridge, muni, bart ticket machines that never work.  Every time there is a downturn, half the store fronts downtown go empty.  And oh yes, about a 1/3 of the city is over run by homeless people sleeping all over the side walks.  I can certainly see how we want to strive for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SF is a beautiful city and love it.  It is kind of a joke for being a big city.  I&#39;ll hit some punch lines: bay bridge, muni, bart ticket machines that never work.  Every time there is a downturn, half the store fronts downtown go empty.  And oh yes, about a 1/3 of the city is over run by homeless people sleeping all over the side walks.  I can certainly see how we want to strive for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to the above comment: But you have to remember that all of these cities you list are either boxed in by bodies of water or were mostly developed pre-1950s. What this means is that they didn&#039;t have the massive sprawl that gutted vibrant commercial activity from the inner city and urban neighborhood centers. Just ten years ago Denver had no real neighborhood commercial areas, now it has several. I always laugh when people say things like &#039;Denver isn&#039;t as cool as SF! Denver isn&#039;t as cool as Seattle!&#039; Well, sheesh, that&#039;s not really a fair comparison is it? When considering region, topography and history, I think it&#039;s more accurate to look at Denver in relation to places like Salt Lake City, Pheonix, Las Vegas, Albuquerque or Dallas. And, in that regard, I think Denver looks pretty darn good. --Jared Jacang Maher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to the above comment: But you have to remember that all of these cities you list are either boxed in by bodies of water or were mostly developed pre-1950s. What this means is that they didn&#39;t have the massive sprawl that gutted vibrant commercial activity from the inner city and urban neighborhood centers. Just ten years ago Denver had no real neighborhood commercial areas, now it has several. I always laugh when people say things like &#39;Denver isn&#39;t as cool as SF! Denver isn&#39;t as cool as Seattle!&#39; Well, sheesh, that&#39;s not really a fair comparison is it? When considering region, topography and history, I think it&#39;s more accurate to look at Denver in relation to places like Salt Lake City, Pheonix, Las Vegas, Albuquerque or Dallas. And, in that regard, I think Denver looks pretty darn good. &#8211;Jared Jacang Maher</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just moved here a few months back from San Francisco and in doing an extensive search of all inner-Denver neighborhoods, we were generally very positively surprised by the quality of the housing stock and at the same time disappointing in the quality and number of neighborhood centers.  Ended up settling about 1/2 way between Tennyson Street and Highland Square.  Even Highland Square, which most people think should be the model for neighborhood centers is ultimately flawed in that a glorified strip mall sits on one of the corners and there is no actual square or public space.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tennyson has great potential, but it is still very, very quiet compared with similar places in many mid-sized cities.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Comparable cities like Cincinnati, Pittsburgh or Portland have many more neighborhood centers that are much more vibrant and attractive than Denver.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Larger cities like SF have 30-50 neighborhood centers ever 1/2 mile or so that put Highlands Square to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just moved here a few months back from San Francisco and in doing an extensive search of all inner-Denver neighborhoods, we were generally very positively surprised by the quality of the housing stock and at the same time disappointing in the quality and number of neighborhood centers.  Ended up settling about 1/2 way between Tennyson Street and Highland Square.  Even Highland Square, which most people think should be the model for neighborhood centers is ultimately flawed in that a glorified strip mall sits on one of the corners and there is no actual square or public space.</p>
<p>Tennyson has great potential, but it is still very, very quiet compared with similar places in many mid-sized cities.  </p>
<p>Comparable cities like Cincinnati, Pittsburgh or Portland have many more neighborhood centers that are much more vibrant and attractive than Denver.</p>
<p>Larger cities like SF have 30-50 neighborhood centers ever 1/2 mile or so that put Highlands Square to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I vote for Perry and Colfax.  The Rose lady has her little empire there, but it seems to me that there is a lot more potential here especially with the West Corridor Light Rail coming on line and St Anthony&#039;s going off line.  And as long as we&#039;re talking food, Taqeria Mexico at Newton and Colfax has the most amazing refried beans ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for Perry and Colfax.  The Rose lady has her little empire there, but it seems to me that there is a lot more potential here especially with the West Corridor Light Rail coming on line and St Anthony&#39;s going off line.  And as long as we&#39;re talking food, Taqeria Mexico at Newton and Colfax has the most amazing refried beans ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about diverting the conversation topic to this: what other areas in Denver might also be considered?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;- S. Broadway, around Ellsworth and First is really coming to life (mixed use!)&lt;br /&gt;- Downing and 22nd could be pretty cool, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about diverting the conversation topic to this: what other areas in Denver might also be considered?</p>
<p>- S. Broadway, around Ellsworth and First is really coming to life (mixed use!)<br />- Downing and 22nd could be pretty cool, too.</p>
<p>Others?</p>
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		<title>By: pizzuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>pizzuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you are arguing, Anonymous, is that the reason shop owners in non-white neighborhoods are failing to expand is that, race set aside, non-white shop owners don&#039;t respond to the needs of their neighborhoods?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The neighborhoods Maher selected are notably and objectively more diverse, but I can&#039;t find any evidence to show that diverse business owners should be &quot;worse&quot; at business than anyone else, and I don&#039;t see enough information to speculate that they aren&#039;t &quot;changing&quot; with the neighborhood unless you&#039;d be willing to give examples of what you mean. Besides, those neighborhoods&#039; lack of significant development cited by &lt;i&gt;Westword&lt;/i&gt; goes beyond the corner stores and family-owned restaurants.  I don&#039;t think the state of business at the hair salon should dissuade Chipotle from moving in next door, should it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would expect a business person from a neighborhood (and in this case &quot;neighborhood&quot; is linked to a racial or cultural identity) would know that community far better than someone setting up shop from outside, and would expect locally-owned shops to be at an advantage here, so the argument that they are unresponsive doesn&#039;t hold.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t want to get too far into this topic because of the high likelihood of sparking a vitriolic conversation on Ken&#039;s blog, which is always a risk when you post views that are sympathetic to diverse communities Online.  But I would say that it&#039;s almost always a safe bet that differences in success between the dominant community and all other communities together have more to do with something about the dominant community than some speculative common trait every other community shares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you are arguing, Anonymous, is that the reason shop owners in non-white neighborhoods are failing to expand is that, race set aside, non-white shop owners don&#39;t respond to the needs of their neighborhoods?</p>
<p>The neighborhoods Maher selected are notably and objectively more diverse, but I can&#39;t find any evidence to show that diverse business owners should be &quot;worse&quot; at business than anyone else, and I don&#39;t see enough information to speculate that they aren&#39;t &quot;changing&quot; with the neighborhood unless you&#39;d be willing to give examples of what you mean. Besides, those neighborhoods&#39; lack of significant development cited by <i>Westword</i> goes beyond the corner stores and family-owned restaurants.  I don&#39;t think the state of business at the hair salon should dissuade Chipotle from moving in next door, should it?</p>
<p>I would expect a business person from a neighborhood (and in this case &quot;neighborhood&quot; is linked to a racial or cultural identity) would know that community far better than someone setting up shop from outside, and would expect locally-owned shops to be at an advantage here, so the argument that they are unresponsive doesn&#39;t hold.  </p>
<p>I don&#39;t want to get too far into this topic because of the high likelihood of sparking a vitriolic conversation on Ken&#39;s blog, which is always a risk when you post views that are sympathetic to diverse communities Online.  But I would say that it&#39;s almost always a safe bet that differences in success between the dominant community and all other communities together have more to do with something about the dominant community than some speculative common trait every other community shares.</p>
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		<title>By: ParkHillGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ParkHillGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live very near the 28th &amp; Fairfax mentioned area and only request Satchles, which, if you havn&#039;t been there for breakfast, you should.  It&#039;s cool, unique, and tastey.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, although I live within walking distance to here, I almost always choose not walk to get a six-pack of Fat Tire or a bottle of wine, but drive probably 3/4 of a mile to the Kearney Liquor Store.  Why?  Well, the 28th &amp; Fairfax Liquor store is dirty, fails to carry the same choices of alcohol, and the clientel is suspect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes.  Suspect.  As has been recently written in the local Park Hill newspaper, whose editorial office is located along this stretch of businesses, suspected drug, gang, and prostittution occurs along this street.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, if we want these areas to be revitalized, it&#039;s about cleaning up the crime in and around these areas.  Plain and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live very near the 28th &amp; Fairfax mentioned area and only request Satchles, which, if you havn&#39;t been there for breakfast, you should.  It&#39;s cool, unique, and tastey.</p>
<p>However, although I live within walking distance to here, I almost always choose not walk to get a six-pack of Fat Tire or a bottle of wine, but drive probably 3/4 of a mile to the Kearney Liquor Store.  Why?  Well, the 28th &amp; Fairfax Liquor store is dirty, fails to carry the same choices of alcohol, and the clientel is suspect.</p>
<p>Yes.  Suspect.  As has been recently written in the local Park Hill newspaper, whose editorial office is located along this stretch of businesses, suspected drug, gang, and prostittution occurs along this street.  </p>
<p>So, if we want these areas to be revitalized, it&#39;s about cleaning up the crime in and around these areas.  Plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 08:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pizzuti one explanation you are missing is market-driven. it&#039;s possible that the shop-owners in those areas are not responding to the needs of the neighborhood. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;regardless of the color of the shop owner, if the surrounding neighbors change then smart business people will respond in-kind and provide services and produccts that match their NEW neighborhood.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;change happens - if business do not respond then they die. but if the streetcars came back, you would seen a continuing evolution of the neighborhood and the commercial nodes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pizzuti one explanation you are missing is market-driven. it&#39;s possible that the shop-owners in those areas are not responding to the needs of the neighborhood. </p>
<p>regardless of the color of the shop owner, if the surrounding neighbors change then smart business people will respond in-kind and provide services and produccts that match their NEW neighborhood.</p>
<p>change happens &#8211; if business do not respond then they die. but if the streetcars came back, you would seen a continuing evolution of the neighborhood and the commercial nodes.</p>
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